Bump again. Argh there needs to be a Rio Karma discussion board/forum somewhere where it's all dedicated to people who are more interested in this.

I can't decide if I want to get this or wait for the iRiver iHP-200 which is loaded with features (20 GB hard drive, FM tuner, 16 hours battery life, only a tiny bit bigger/heavier than 3rd generation iPod, comes with remote with an LCD screen, firmware upgradeable which iRiver is pretty good at releasing, recording with built-in microphone, USB 2.0 file transfer, optical in and out, magnesium body, etc.)

Of course I probably don't need all of these features, but it'd be cool just to have them in case I ever am bored. I love gadgets.