He's actually there? I thought I was joking (or are you joking?).

Anyway, just an update on coming competition since this thread is basically a general portable player thread. I am not trying to promote anything, but Toshiba (Japan) is right now having one of those mysterious websites that'll be updated every so often with new info. of a new HDD player. Click here! They say it'll be less than 13 mm in height (I assume depth), so that it will actually be thinner than the new iPod. That is pretty impressive. The other numbers will be revealed by the dates shown there.

I just hope 500 doesn't mean something dumb like 500 folders max haha. Anyway, I know most of you will still trust the Empeg team with innovation in the Rio products, and I do not plan to try to convince you otherwise. I am just showing you what's coming soon too. Toshiba, nevertheless, released a crappy HDD player before, and history might repeat itself. At least it'll be thin.