You are rebutting my opinion that the Civic's design "borrowed" heavily from the Focus by saying that the Focus is ugly? That is you opinion and has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Take a look at the rear of a Civic 4-door sedan and the rear of a Focus 4-door sedan. See the horizontal chrome trim above the licence plate on both cars? See the height of the trunk lid? See the similar shaped tail lights? Now go to the front of the car. See the similar rakes of the windsheild? See the similar shapes in the head lights? Honda designers even publically praised the Focus (prior to the new Civic's launch).

Like I said, I owned one for two years and sometimes, from far enough away, I still confuse a new Civic sedan for a Focus.
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Brad B.