"I don't see how church and state can ever be totally separate no matter how hard they try to make it that way. "

In my personal opinion, this statement is about the truest thing said in this whole thread. Unfortunately, for religious/irreligious people alike their beliefs are the premises by which they view right and wrong, and this influences what the state views as legal/illegal. I'm sure there probably isn't a person on this board who doesn't have at least on major qualm with some state sanctioned law based on his or her beliefs. The best the state can do is not throw people in jail for observing their own beliefs and practices and beyond that I suppose majority rules.
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-Jeff
Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings; they did it by killing all those who opposed them.