Originally Posted By: altman
Originally Posted By: Dignan
Originally Posted By: Cris
Let them be smug, they deserve it.

And you might be surprised to hear me say this, but I agree. They do deserve to be smug.

I don't have to like it, though.

Seriously, people at Apple aren't smug. It's a lot of people working their asses off to make the best product - and I do mean that. Yes, it's expensive stuff but if you saw all the thousands of decision points through a design's evolution where there were "do it cheap/well enough or do it right" questions, the only answer is always "do it right".

When I was at Rio I'd often tear apple stuff down and wonder what the hell all this extra circuitry was for that we wouldn't have put in (or been able to afford to put in) at Rio. I've never seen anything in consumer electronics as thoroughly engineered or exhaustively tested as the stuff Apple makes.

If the marketing goes on and on about how good it is, that's no different to, say, BMW's marketing. They are justifiably proud of the premium product they've made.

My personal opinion, obviously.

Like Jeff said, of course I wasn't talking about the technical people who work hard to create a great product. Besides, how would I see that at all?

All I was talking about was their public face. You may perceive that face one way, but I perceive it as portraying a smugness that turns me off of the company. If I ever bought or owned an Apple product, it would be despite their marketing, and not because of it.
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